In a brief but contentious May 22 Hurricane Response and Recovery Subcommittee hearing, members pressed administration officials about the contracting process and potential conflicts of interest.

At issue during the 70-minute session with Division of Community Revitalization (DCR) Deputy Secretary Stephanie McGarrah, Western North Carolina Recovery Advisor Jonathan Krebs, and GROW NC Director Matt Calabria was how Horne won the $81.5 million housing recovery program contract. Further questions are likely when the subcommittee plans to meet again. Emergency Management Director Will Ray, who was also invited to testify, will address the subcommittee at the next meeting.

Krebs was a managing partner with Horne until April 2024 and made cash contributions to Josh Stein’s gubernatorial campaign. Members raised concerns about a $29,000 in-kind contribution from Krebs to the NC Democratic Leadership Committee reported in October, less than a month after Hurricane Helene. An invoice provided by the governor’s office showed the contribution was in March 2024. Krebs acknowledged that the fundraiser where he made that donation led to his further involvement with Stein and his current role.

McGarrah was very confident in the decision to select Horne and said, “It wasn’t even close—Horne was by far the best vendor selection.” She and Krebs gave conflicting answers about the timing and extent of his participation in the Request for Proposal (RFP) process.

Members asked how IEM was excluded for offering to provide financial information upon request. McGarrah said the 2024 court decision eDealer Servs., LLC. v. N.C. Dep’t of Transp. meant the agency could not ask for the information once the bids were opened.

DCR will ensure accountability on its own and with another vendor that will be hired to monitor Horne’s progress. “We’re not just going to take their word for it,” she said. “And that is another mistake I think NCORR made.”

The procurement process itself took “more than 1,000 hours” from 11 people just at the Department of Commerce, where DCR is housed. McGarrah complained, “There is a lot of red tape. It is one of the most tedious, difficult processes I’ve ever been through. I think we can make improvements to it.”

Members of the Joint Legislative Commission on Governmental Operations Subcommittee on Hurricane Response and Recovery sought reassurance that home repair and reconstruction in the western part of the state would be better run than it has been in the east.

Deputy Secretary for Community Recovery Stephanie McGarrah and Jonathan Krebs, western recovery advisor for Gov. Josh Stein, described how their proposed action plan incorporates lessons from earlier storms in North Carolina and other states.

Krebs assured members that “as long we do what we say we were going to do in that action plan, HUD will reimburse those costs at 100%.” The General Assembly had not directed any of the $1.1 billion appropriated in 2024 to housing because that answer was not clear. They were also hesitant to give any more money to the North Carolina Office of Recovery and Resiliency (NCORR), which was responsible for home repairs and reconstruction in the east.

Chairman Brenden Jones (R-Columbus) was emphatic about the failure of NCORR and the need for the GrowNC response to Helene to do better with its $1.4 billion in federal funds. He was glad to hear that McGarrah would be in Western Norh Carolina regularly and many of the staff hired by her Division of Community Revitalization would live and work in the region.

Sen. Tim Moffit (R-Polk), Sen. Steve Jarvis (R-Davidson, Davie), Rep. Karl Gillespie (R-Macon), and Rep. Mark Pless (R-Haywood) worried about higher costs from excessive local, state, and federal regulation. They insisted that people should not be forced from land that may have been in their family for generations.

Rep. Pless also expressed concern that the action plan directs $53 million to build new affordable housing and workforce housing instead of replacing or repairing homes damaged by the Helene.

In his closing comments, Krebs offered three statutory changes that could help. First, the state could offer an affidavit to help resolve properties with multiple heirs, as in Texas. Second, a Florida law provides a model to speed permits and inspections. Third would be to ensure agencies have “prepositioned contracts” with vendors to respond rapidly in an emergency.

After reminding Krebs and McGarrah that “failure is not an option,” Chairman Jones reiterated, “We’re counting on you, but more importantly, folks in the west are counting on you.”

Members of the Joint Legislative Commission on Governmental Operations Subcommittee on Hurricane Response and Recovery will resume questioning Department of Commerce Deputy Secretary Stephanie McGarrah of the Division of Community Revitalization and Governor Stein’s Recovery Advisor Jonathan Krebs on Hurricane Helene recovery in a hearing Thursday, March 6 at 9 a.m.

This will be a follow-up hearing from January when McGarrah and Krebs had their testimony cut short due to time constraints. They will be expected to provide further details on what they have learned from the failings of the North Carolina Office of Recovery and Resiliency and outline GROW NC’s plans for Helene recovery.

“We have to make sure that the new agency in charge of Helene recovery does not repeat the mistakes of its predecessor. We want to set the GROW NC staff up for success from the get-go. We want to work together, but we want them to know that we’re paying attention.” said Co-Chair Rep. Brenden Jones (R-Columbus). “To those in Western North Carolina who have lost homes, businesses, or loved ones, we haven’t forgotten you, and we want the area to come back even better and stronger than before Helene.”